Dec 29, 2012 12:00pm PST
and the fiscal cliff drama. most americans could see a rise in taxes and government spending cuts if government does not reach a deal before year's end, and i want to bring in two capitol hill veterans, budget committee member as well, martin frost of texas and david winston, he was aide to newt gingrich and adviser to newt gingrich's 2012 presidential campaign. i want to pick up where we left off last hour. gentlemen, you were making a point. my question is what happened to those talks between the president and john boehner. at one point they were 400 million apart and it was one whole heck of a lot of money and what happened? i think what happened is that the president decided that he was going to up the number from 800 to $1.2 trillion worth of revenue that he wanted. >> that took speaker boehner to the point where he didn't think they would go through the house and things began to fall apart at that point and they ended up going with this commission and i think it was frustrating to both men. my sense is they know the speaker was trying to get there and my sense from talking to the speaker'
Dec 28, 2012 7:00pm EST
and it's also will a strategic question. a lot of folks want something to happen on the fiscal cliff and the one thing they don't want to include is an inclusion of the debt ceiling, an extension of the debt ceiling because come next year, early next year when we hit that debt limit again, they want to have spending cuts included with the debt limit negotiations and that's where the spending cuts i predict will happen during the debt limit and not the fiscal cliff. >> what's it going to look like when we have this fight about the debt ceiling. >> robert just said that the one thing that has been brought up is the debt ceiling as part of the negotiation and the other thing that they've mentioned are the spending cuts and he'll make an offer to put those on the table and part of that is that these are not popular right now and we could have an intellectual exercise about whether they should be, about whether it's proper or not, but the political reality is barack obama just wants to campaign and the liberals did very well. ? they didn't win the house. >> what's that? >> they didn't win
Dec 29, 2012 10:00am EST
. they talked about the need to reach a deal to avert the fiscal cliff. >> i've been working people of both parties with the help of business leaders and ordinary americans to come together around a plan to grow the economy. a plan that would protect the middle class, cut spending and ask the wealthiest americans to pay a little bit more. i will keep working with anyone who is serious about getting a comprehensive plan like this done. we are now just -- all tax rates are going up. a will get a lot smaller. it would hurt middle-class families and businesses that depend on your spending. congress can prevent it from happening. leaders are working on a way to prevent this tax hike on the middle class. if an agreement is reached i will urge the senate to hold an up or down vote to protect the middle class from the income- tax hike. it could pass both houses a bipartisan majority. but they still want to vote no, that is their prerogative. they shall let everybody else vote as well. we cannot afford a politically self-inflicted wound. the housing market is healing. the unemployment rate is the lo